Comments for Atheology http://atheology.com n. against God or gods, anti-theology, the defense of naturalism Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:55:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 Comment on God’s Physical Problem by Jim Leslie http://atheology.com/2006/07/29/gods-physical-problem/#comment-214 Jim Leslie Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:22:37 +0000 http://atheology.com/2006/07/29/gods-physical-problem/#comment-214 The theist is right about this. Thinking is a kind of doing. But any kind of doing takes time and so can occur only in Time. The God of Christianity is, however, said to be transcendent rather than temporal or spatial (physical). That he is not temporal is why he can never change. But, existing outside of Time as he does he cannot do anything that takes time to do, and thinking does. Thinking is a process that takes inputs and produces outputs. It cannot be conceived without contradiction to occur outside of Time and thus the issue is a logical or conceptual one, not a physical one. Consequently, not only is it logically impossible for God to think, it is logically impossible that he could do anything at all. The theist is right about this. Thinking is a kind of doing. But any kind of doing takes time and so can occur only in Time. The God of Christianity is, however, said to be transcendent rather than temporal or spatial (physical). That he is not temporal is why he can never change. But, existing outside of Time as he does he cannot do anything that takes time to do, and thinking does. Thinking is a process that takes inputs and produces outputs. It cannot be conceived without contradiction to occur outside of Time and thus the issue is a logical or conceptual one, not a physical one. Consequently, not only is it logically impossible for God to think, it is logically impossible that he could do anything at all.

]]> Comment on Beyond Atheism by Mark http://atheology.com/2006/07/09/beyond-atheism/#comment-212 Mark Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:33:48 +0000 http://atheology.com/2006/07/09/beyond-atheism/#comment-212 Talk about coming late to the party... This really spoke to me and I can't agree more with your central message - that we need to stand <em>for</em> something. I'd like to take it even further and see atheists talk more about other aspects of their world view. I say this because I don't think naturalism is any atheists entire world view. In addition to being a naturalist, I'd say I'm also a strong humanist - a world view that I believe incorporates naturalism. If we're to bring people to atheism, we have to provide an alternative to theist world views. Without the alternative, people just see empty disbelief. Thanks for this. Talk about coming late to the party…

This really spoke to me and I can’t agree more with your central message - that we need to stand for something.

I’d like to take it even further and see atheists talk more about other aspects of their world view. I say this because I don’t think naturalism is any atheists entire world view.

In addition to being a naturalist, I’d say I’m also a strong humanist - a world view that I believe incorporates naturalism.

If we’re to bring people to atheism, we have to provide an alternative to theist world views. Without the alternative, people just see empty disbelief.

Thanks for this.

]]> Comment on Why Are We Alive? by Michael http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-210 Michael Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:39:25 +0000 http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-210 I believe that the question, "Why are we alive?" can be answered but it will only be revealed to the one seeking diligently for the answer to that question. and the answer certainly will not be easily put into words. I believe that the question, “Why are we alive?” can be answered but it will only be revealed to the one seeking diligently for the answer to that question. and the answer certainly will not be easily put into words.

]]> Comment on Why Are We Alive? by Brian http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-209 Brian Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:30:26 +0000 http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-209 Anonymous...it sounds like you are very confused and really have no idea what Christianity is about. I suggest you read the Bible for some food for thought. Who knows...it might turn out to be the best thing you've ever read :) Anonymous…it sounds like you are very confused and really have no idea what Christianity is about. I suggest you read the Bible for some food for thought. Who knows…it might turn out to be the best thing you’ve ever read :)

]]> Comment on Why Are We Alive? by anonymous http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-206 anonymous Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:54:43 +0000 http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-206 I dont understand atheism ( i m not religious btw whatever that means!). A random comment on this blog --- Christians are the real nonbelievers. Whereas to love life means to love mortality. Not to love death and pain and dying, but to love the fact that we are capable of dying. For mortality is the very thing that makes life so overwhelmingly valuable. As no God could ever be. As immortality could never make us. —Dwight Lyman The gentleman( god! (:)) am i trying to project my civility) so easily slips in the words "love","value" (concepts created by or inherent to human????) which to me are confounding. I dont understand atheism ( i m not religious btw whatever that means!).

A random comment on this blog —
Christians are the real nonbelievers. Whereas to love life means to love mortality. Not to love death and pain and dying, but to love the fact that we are capable of dying. For mortality is the very thing that makes life so overwhelmingly valuable. As no God could ever be. As immortality could never make us. —Dwight Lyman

The gentleman( god! (:)) am i trying to project my civility) so easily slips in the words “love”,”value” (concepts created by or inherent to human????) which to me are confounding.

]]> Comment on Why Are We Alive? by anonymous http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-205 anonymous Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:42:53 +0000 http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-205 Correction 'I haven't read your "blog" ' and the latter part is obvious. :) After skimming through your thoughts about "devaluation of body" i propose a thought experiment (not original). Start cutting off your body parts..... When do u expect to loose a 'sense' of self ? I agree that your 'sense' would significantly change without some of the inner constituents but the question is how far can one go? The comment mentioning 'Amoeba' is worth pondering over but lets just leave that for the scientists to figure out!!! Correction ‘I haven’t read your “blog” ‘ and the latter part is obvious. :)

After skimming through your thoughts about “devaluation of body” i propose a thought experiment (not original). Start cutting off your body parts….. When do u expect to loose a ’sense’ of self ? I agree that your ’sense’ would significantly change without some of the inner constituents but the question is how far can one go?
The comment mentioning ‘Amoeba’ is worth pondering over but lets just leave that for the scientists to figure out!!!

]]> Comment on Why Are We Alive? by anonymous http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-204 anonymous Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:25:59 +0000 http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-204 I didn't choose to be born so can't choose to die Its a simplistic statement (i can choose to die anytime!! but this choice comes after infanthood) and full of fallacies (What is I ? Choose? Born (aggregation of atoms,quarks or something more fundamental)? Die?). Language is a wonderful invention but it pains me to put my thought into words :) I haven't read your post and am just posting my thoughts. I didn’t choose to be born so can’t choose to die
Its a simplistic statement (i can choose to die anytime!! but this choice comes after infanthood) and full of fallacies (What is I ? Choose? Born (aggregation of atoms,quarks or something more fundamental)? Die?).
Language is a wonderful invention but it pains me to put my thought into words :) I haven’t read your post and am just posting my thoughts.

]]> Comment on Why Are We Alive? by Brian http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-201 Brian Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:34:20 +0000 http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-201 Garrett Johns...I take your put downs as a complement on my faith. I respect all opinions but I am definitely on fire for the Lord Our God and won't hesitate to state what I believe in. I'm sorry that you are still confused with whether to believe evolution or not when there are clearly many flaws in the "theory of evolution" now more than ever...and increasing as the years progress. I do question some specific things about my existance that I do not have answers for, but the Bible which I whole-heartedly believe in states that there are many mysteries that we will not find the answers to until we are in heaven ourselves. We could rack our brains trying to figure out how God came about to be, where exactly Heaven is, if there other forms of life out there...etc, etc...but we probably will not get clear-cut answers to half of the things we question because of the limitations of dimensions that God made us aware of while we are "living" here on Earth. I suggest you read the Bible from front to back and then compare its facts against evolutionary theory. I haven't met a single person who has done that and hasn't eventually chosen the later to trust in. There are countless of prophecies in the Bible...I don't even know where to begin...that have already been fulfilled - but one huge thing sets True Christianity apart from any other believe/religion...and that is Jesus. He is the only "prophet" who claimed that He WAS God and rose up from the dead proving that in fact. No other religion has the link to God the Father who is Jesus. Accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior is the only way to enter the kingdom of Heaven according to the Bible. I'll put my heart and my soul on Jesus and the growing truths of Bible to live my life by rather than anything else that claims that there is another way to believe but doesn't brush the surface of the truths of the one and only Bible (Old Testament & New). Garrett Johns…I take your put downs as a complement on my faith. I respect all opinions but I am definitely on fire for the Lord Our God and won’t hesitate to state what I believe in. I’m sorry that you are still confused with whether to believe evolution or not when there are clearly many flaws in the “theory of evolution” now more than ever…and increasing as the years progress. I do question some specific things about my existance that I do not have answers for, but the Bible which I whole-heartedly believe in states that there are many mysteries that we will not find the answers to until we are in heaven ourselves. We could rack our brains trying to figure out how God came about to be, where exactly Heaven is, if there other forms of life out there…etc, etc…but we probably will not get clear-cut answers to half of the things we question because of the limitations of dimensions that God made us aware of while we are “living” here on Earth. I suggest you read the Bible from front to back and then compare its facts against evolutionary theory. I haven’t met a single person who has done that and hasn’t eventually chosen the later to trust in. There are countless of prophecies in the Bible…I don’t even know where to begin…that have already been fulfilled - but one huge thing sets True Christianity apart from any other believe/religion…and that is Jesus. He is the only “prophet” who claimed that He WAS God and rose up from the dead proving that in fact. No other religion has the link to God the Father who is Jesus. Accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior is the only way to enter the kingdom of Heaven according to the Bible. I’ll put my heart and my soul on Jesus and the growing truths of Bible to live my life by rather than anything else that claims that there is another way to believe but doesn’t brush the surface of the truths of the one and only Bible (Old Testament & New).

]]> Comment on Moving to new host by John http://atheology.com/2008/04/26/moving-to-new-host/#comment-200 John Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:33:13 +0000 http://atheology.com/2008/04/26/moving-to-new-host/#comment-200 why do we exist? whats more personal is why do I exist.......i dont know.....................in fact none of us really know. It feels depressing, it feels scary and there is the question what is everything about,,...I question everything........to be honest Im not sure, I wish I was as certain as those who seem certain......the reality ....what is that really.....I talk to my parents but like many they are so preocuppied with thoughts that which they allow to take over their actions. I love them. Existence.....breath air wind thats 4 certain.....what does that make me...who is u. Im not a poet but wish I could convey how I truly feel. Anyway,.......which way. Question ? why do we exist? whats more personal is why do I exist…….i dont know…………………in fact none of us really know. It feels depressing, it feels scary and there is the question what is everything about,,…I question everything……..to be honest Im not sure, I wish I was as certain as those who seem certain……the reality ….what is that really…..I talk to my parents but like many they are so preocuppied with thoughts that which they allow to take over their actions. I love them. Existence…..breath air wind thats 4 certain…..what does that make me…who is u. Im not a poet but wish I could convey how I truly feel. Anyway,…….which way. Question ?

]]> Comment on Why Are We Alive? by YENOM http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-199 YENOM Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:50:44 +0000 http://atheology.com/2007/05/21/why-are-we-alive/#comment-199 THEORIES FROM THE BIG BANG, EVOLUTION, PANSPERMIA, HAVE FLAWS AND CANNOT EXPLAIN OUR EXISTANCE COMPLETELY, RELIGION ALSO SEEMS TO HAVE GAPS IN IT'S STORY. HOWEVER ME GIVEN A CHOICE BETWEEN ASSUMING A GOD A LIVING WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ISNT ONE I CHOOSE THE LATER AND IF I AM WRON I'M NO WORSE OFF THAN THE ATHEIST BUT IF IM RIGHT THAN I FEEL FOR THOSE WHO CHOSE TO IGNORE THE SOUL. WE EXIST BECAUSE WE EXIST. THOSE PEOPLE WHO CHOSE TO LIVE THERE LIFE FOR GOD SEEM TO BE MORE PEACEFULL MORE CARING AND JUST MORE PLEASANT WHILE THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE EVOLUTIONARY MODEL SEEM BENT ON GENOCIDE, POWER AND CONTROL FOR EXAMPLE STALIN, HITLER THEORIES FROM THE BIG BANG, EVOLUTION, PANSPERMIA, HAVE FLAWS AND CANNOT EXPLAIN OUR EXISTANCE COMPLETELY, RELIGION ALSO SEEMS TO HAVE GAPS IN IT’S STORY. HOWEVER ME GIVEN A CHOICE BETWEEN ASSUMING A GOD A LIVING WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ISNT ONE I CHOOSE THE LATER AND IF I AM WRON I’M NO WORSE OFF THAN THE ATHEIST BUT IF IM RIGHT THAN I FEEL FOR THOSE WHO CHOSE TO IGNORE THE SOUL. WE EXIST BECAUSE WE EXIST. THOSE PEOPLE WHO CHOSE TO LIVE THERE LIFE FOR GOD SEEM TO BE MORE PEACEFULL MORE CARING AND JUST MORE PLEASANT WHILE THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE EVOLUTIONARY MODEL SEEM BENT ON GENOCIDE, POWER AND CONTROL FOR EXAMPLE STALIN, HITLER

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